Name: Allan Berggren From: Claremont, NH Time: Mar 3, 2000 07:02
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	Name: Mike McCrea From: Maryland Time: Mar 3, 2000 10:21
Referred by: Word of Mouth (Favorite) Website: Monocacy canoe Club Comments:

Family Canoe camping Suggestions?

Looking for suggestions for a family canoe camping trip for mid-July. This trip will involve 4 canoes, 4 adults and 4 kids. All are relatively experienced canoe campers (Potomac River Maryland, Edisto River South Carolina, Allegheny Reservoir Pennsylvania, Stillwater Reservoir Adirondacks, Lobster Lake Maine, Buffalo River Arkansas, etc).

The criteria:

Gentle water - Flatwater or class 1. Lake paddling or easy rivers.

Portages - NONE. We're still a few years from cutting down our gear to a portagable amount.

Campsites - Eight people and four tents (to say nothing of the dog). We need room to spread out.

Locale - Within a (long) day's drive north of Maryland. So: New York, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Ontario, ?????

Trip length - Up to a week or so. But we don't like packing up and moving camp every day; easily satisfied with setting up a backcountry base camp or two and day paddling and exploring from there.

Will recriprocate with favorite canoe camping venues mid-Atlantic and south-east.

Thanks

Mike McCrea

Spend as much time as possible
on moutains, in small boats
or otherwise out in the weather;
if you never get wet, cold, exhausted or scared,
you won't properly apreciate
being dry, warm, rested and safe.

	Name: Bruce Therrien From: VT Time: Mar 7, 2000 20:00
Referred by: Bow and Stern (Favorite) Website: http://mountainzone.com Comments:

Anyone have comments/experience on an Old Town Penobscot 16' as an all-around canoe. Mostly flat water,sometimes solo, sometimes kids or dog, occasional 2-3 day trip and occasional tandem river run up to class III. Posted replies appreciated.

Bruce

	Name: Roxanne Barbeau From: North Hartland, VT Time: Mar 8, 2000 10:39
Referred by: Search Engine (Favorite) Website: Union Village Dam Comments:

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers will be celebrating the 50th "birthday" of one of its flood control facilities in Thetford,VT on June 24, 2000. The land around the dam is used for public recreation. Part of the planned celebration will entail both recreation/natural resource oriented non-profit groups and retailers promoting their organization/businesses by having a booth or exhibit or conducting a demonstration emphasizing safe, responsible recreation on Federal lands.

Union Village Dam is the site of a number of different activities, all year round. This event would be an excellent chance to promote your organization/business and display merchandise and information.

For more information on Union Village Dam's upcoming birthday event, i can be contacted at the addess above, or contacted at (802) 295-2855, M-F from 7 A.M.-3:30 P.M.
Thank You,
Roxanne Barbeau

	Name: Andrew Fraser From: Milton Time: Mar 9, 2000 15:28
Referred by: Word of Mouth Comments:

17 ft Mad river royalex canoe green
'79 model. Ash gunwhales. Cane seats.
Great shape. Thule roof rack. $900.00

802-893-7966 leave a message

	Name: Alan Rexford From: E. Calais Time: Mar 12, 2000 07:52
Referred by: Bow and Stern Comments:

FS: Necky Rip - like new condition; planing hull river runner with better hull speed than pure rodeo boats; surfs larger waves with confidence; great for ocean surfing - asking $525.

	Name: Tony Shaw From: Williston Time: Mar 12, 2000 18:21
Referred by: Bow and Stern (Favorite) Website: Dam Release Schedules 2000 Comments:

I am passing along this trips schedule, courtesy of Julie Smith and the Merrimack Valley Paddlers !!!

Subj: training trips 2000 version 1
Date: 3/9/2000
From: julies@ttlc.net (Julie Smith)

After hours of preparation and with the first trip coming up in a week, I
have decided to present this roster "as is," although there are a few other
opportunities that could have materialized. As a service to people new to
paddling or to the region, I have pointed out some things at the bottom. If
you have any questions, please call the leader.


3/18 Lower Otter Brook 300**
George May
883-3409

3/19 Lower Otter Brook 300**
Frank Turrisi
434-9687

4/1 Upper Millers 1500**

Julie Smith
891-0267

4/2 Millers**(leader's choice)
Dan Holzman
369-2379

4/8 Lower Souhegan*
co-sponsored by MRWC & Souhegan Watershed Association
George May
883-3409

4/15 Upper Piscataquog*
co-sponsored by MRWC
Tom McIntire
425-1859

4/15 Lower Otter Brook 250**
Allan Berggren & Julie Smith
543-3691
891-0267

4/29 Lower West 1500**
John Bennett
329-4797

4/29 Upper West 1500**
Mark Lacroix
726-3701

4/30 Lower West 1500**
John Bennett
329-4797

4/30 Upper West 1500**
Greg Owen
280-0171

4/30 Blackwater 600
Dan Holzman
369-2379

5/27 Dead 1800***
Gary Bamberger & Julie Smith
447-2247
891-0267
$3 admission at gate

5/27 Kennebec @4600***
Prerequisite: Upper West 4/29
Mark Lacroix
726-3701
$1 Admission at gate

5/27 Fife Brook >700**
Mary Malmros
267-8005

5/28 Dead 5500***
Prerequisite: Upper West 4/29
Mark Lacroix
726-3701
Sweep: Gary Bamberger
447-2247
$3 Admission at gate

5/28 Fife Brook >700**
Mary Malmros
267-8005




TBA Dead 2400***
the Damboises

$3 Admission at gate

8/26-8/27 Kennebec***
the Damboises
463-9890
$1 Admission at gate


*non-release river call ahead for conditions

**Connecticut watershed carpooling suggested

***Maine carpooling strongly suggested



see http://www.mapquest.com link for maps

see http://www.merrimack.org (currently under construction) link for
flatwater trips

	Name: Maurice Valcour From: Winooski, VT Time: Mar 13, 2000 15:29
Referred by: Word of Mouth Comments:

For Sale: Lincoln Hiddon Pond Canoe, 36 pound, Kevlar, 2 years old, 12-13 ft, New $1300, asking $800 OBO. Call Maurice at 802-655-4506. Leave a message.

	Name: Internet Dollars From: U. S. A. Time: Mar 14, 2000 00:15
Referred by: Bow and Stern (Favorite) Website: Internet Dollars Comments:

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	Name: Jason Duquette-Hoffman From: Burlington, VT Time: Mar 14, 2000 01:09
Referred by: Bow and Stern (Favorite) Website: BoaterTalk Comments:

Mad River Rampage for sale, used one season. Asking $600. Comes outfitted with foam pedestal, Voyageur 78" nylon float bags, thigh straps and Kevlar skid plates. Great condition, never been pinned, wrapped, etc. The roughest water it has seen is the upper West. Great big water boat or beginner boat. I hate to sell it but I am moving to the coast and need a surf kayak! :)

	Name: Mike From: VT Time: Mar 16, 2000 12:48
Referred by: Word of Mouth Comments:

FOR SALE! Dagger Gradient. Super creek boat! Paddled very little,in great shape. All the trimmin's!Red with white. $500.00/obo

	Name: Terry From: Sunday Rock, NY Time: Mar 16, 2000 15:18
Referred by: Bow and Stern (Favorite) Website: Paddling.net Comments:

FOR SALE: Cotton "Campfire Tent" (see Bill Mason's _Song of the Paddle_). 9'x7' floor, 6' high, netting on door/windows. Cook and lounge out of the rain/wind. Camp in comfort in all weathers - even put in a wood stove! EXCELLENT CONDITION, NEVER USED. Email for TENT details.

	Name: Terry From: Sunday Rock NY Time: Mar 16, 2000 16:05
Referred by: Bow and Stern (Favorite) Website: In The Same Boat Comments:

For Sale: OLD TOWN XL TRIPPER CANOE. A real workhorse. 20' long. Made of ABS, special heavy-duty construction (Kevlar "skid plates" at bow & stern, aluminum-reinforced vinyl gunwales, three extra-wide thwarts). Stable with paddle and pole. Comfortable cane seats. Could even be rigged as a sailing canoe! EXCELLENT CONDITION. Located in far northern New York. $700.

	Name: Tony Shaw From: Williston, VT Time: Mar 18, 2000 14:59
Referred by: "confessed VPC WWW denizen" (Favorite) Website: March 2000 'Bow and Stern' Comments:

I've just uploaded the latest edition of the Bow and Stern. In it you'll find summer release schedules for New England rivers, trip reports, and much more. Click the link just above...

Tony

	Name: Joe Perella From: Richmond, VT Time: Mar 22, 2000 08:17
Referred by: Bow and Stern Comments:

Kayaks For Sale

Perception Dancer -- Light blue, Good Condition, Standard Cockpit, with like new sprayskirt (med.). $150.00

Wave Sport Laser -- Blue/purple mottled graphics. Excelent Condition, Large Cockpit. Fast hull speed. $275.00

Call: (h)(802)434-3481
(w)(802)951-6725

	Name: Joe Perella From: Richmond, VT Time: Mar 22, 2000 09:31
Referred by: Bow and Stern Comments:

Kayaks for Sale

Perception Dancer -- Light Blue, Good Condition, Standard Cockpit w/like new sprayskirt (med). $150

Wave Sport Laser -- Blue/Purple, Excellent Condition, Large Cockpit, Fast hull speed.
$275

Call Joe at: (h) (802) 434-3481
(w) (802) 951-6725

	Name: Bob Beilfuss From: Upton, MA Time: Mar 22, 2000 15:38
Referred by: Bow and Stern (Favorite) Website: http://www.yahoo.com Comments:

I am running my raft down the bulls bridge section in CT for the first time on Sat. 4/1/00. I have room for 1 more person in the raft let me know if you'd like to go. Or let me know if you'd like to run it your own boat. Rafts make good probes and tend to clear the way through surfing holes if you follow behind.

	Name: Bob Beilfuss From: Upton, MA Time: Mar 22, 2000 16:13
Referred by: Bow and Stern Comments:

Hello, I am newcomer to New England. What rivers (class IV) are wide enough for a 15' raft this spring?

I already know about the following:
Dryway
Dead
Bulls Bridge
Kennebec
Pennobscot

What about the Swift? Any others?

	Name: Chris Weed From: Burlington, VT Time: Mar 25, 2000 21:17
Referred by: "confessed VPC WWW denizen" Comments:

Some details on tomorrow's Lower Lamoille trip (Sunday, March 26), from Randy Mead --
Plan to meet at 12:30 PM at the Georgia High Bridge (top of Arrowhead Lake), where we'll organize shuttling up to the put-in. The put-in will be in Fairfax, past the high school (downstream from the Rt 104 bridge). Allow for a couple of hours paddling time. The river is at perfect level right now [3,430 cfs @ 6 PM on 3/25].

	Name: Jonathan From: boston Time: Mar 27, 2000 15:43
Referred by: Search Engine Comments:

I am planning a paddling trip (no whitewater/ early may) for 4-5 days with paddlers of various skills (canoes/kayaks). I would like to cover a good distance, some lake some river with camping options along the way. I have spent more time in the Adirondacks but thought it would be good to try some in VT. Probably park cars at both ends since there will be at least two cars worth of people. Any ideas?

	Name: Keith Lawrence From: williston Time: Mar 27, 2000 16:14
Referred by: Word of Mouth Comments:

Dagger Caper playboat. 15' long royalex, floatation for and aft,saddle set up for one, new wood outwalls, good condition. $300 OBO. Call Keith evenings at 879-7569 or e-mail.

	Name: Phil Roberts From: Randolph Time: Mar 29, 2000 12:11
Referred by: MVP, AMC, etc. Comments:

Dagger Vortex for sale. Great river running and beginner boat. $425.95

	Name: Ricky Battistoni From: Vermont Time: Mar 29, 2000 21:03
Referred by: "confessed VPC WWW denizen" Comments:

Looking for anyone interested in putting together a team for Hawaii five o Outrigger race... I need 6 folks (M/F) interested in forming a VPC team - more for fun than anything... Aug 26 in Burlington... If interest is there, I will try tracking down a boat. Please call Ricky @ 893-4655!

	Name: Gretchen Gochenour From: Williamsburg Virginia Time: Mar 30, 2000 18:59
Referred by: Word of Mouth Comments:

I am a camp Program Director at the Jamestown 4-H Educational Center in Williamsburg, Virginia.

Currently Our summer camping program is looking for an Canoe and Kayak Instructor.
We serve kids ages 9-13 and employment and housing is available from early may to late august. We help provide training for the right individual. (A love and experience in either craft would be helpful as well as some experience with children.

Our facility is also an American Camping Association accredited camp. Other perks related to staff is that camp staff do not live with kids, we only work M-F weekends off, and housing is air conditioned. Also we are within 50 minutes of Virginia Beach.

We have a waterfront that is 1100 square feet on the James River. The River is tidal and a wonderful environment to canoe and kayak and teach others especially kids this wonderful past time and art in recreation.

If you still need a summer job and want to make a difference while making pretty good money (for camp jobs, because I feel we are competitive) please contact our office immediately. at Jamestown 4-H Educational Center at 757-253-4931 or email directly to me Gretchen at ggocheno@vt.edu

Job applications are available directly on our website at: http://www.ext.vt.edu/resources/4h/jamestown/employ.html

I hope to hear from some great individuals very soon. Now is the time to get your summer lined up.

	Name: Andrew Fraser From: Milton Time: Mar 31, 2000 12:23
Referred by: Word of Mouth Comments:

Fore Sale: 17 foot Mad River canoe
Dropping the price to $850.00/OBO
Green,'79, Royalex, in very good shape, wood guwhales, 2 cane seats,Royalex decks.
Very easy to paddle and enjoyable as a solo canoe, however, it is a big canoe. Paddled easily with close to 350 lb.s in it! Will take best offer at the end of April.