Name: Tom Yurista From: Middlebury Time: May 1, 2001 06:06
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	Name: Tom Yurista From: Middlebury Time: May 1, 2001 06:41
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A few years ago when AW magazine had one of its multiple article features about a beloved member of the paddling community who had died tragically, one of the writers wrote something akin to: good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement. Everyone who paddles whitewater knows how true that is--thankfully, most of the time its part of the fun and makes for great stories. Whitewater is awesome. The New Haven is awesome, and because the entire run is roadside it is a great place to start to do some creeking because everything can be scouted easily, can be run safely, and everything can be walked. It is still class III/VI/V, however, and should never be taken lightly at any water level. Paddle safe.

	Name: Megan From: Time: May 1, 2001 09:11
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Tuesday night Huntington trip will be on the Lower New Haven again this week. We're meeting 5:30 at the church in Bristol. This is an intermediate, rather than beginner run.cheers all,Megan

	Name: Tony Shaw From: Williston Time: May 1, 2001 11:10
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Speaking of the New Haven Ledges...

I would like to catch it after work, or this weekend, at one foot. What is the level now? Anyone venture to predict its rise and fall over the next few days??

T.

	Name: Brian Jones From: Burlington Time: May 1, 2001 11:13
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As part of the group of "not very expert" paddlers who got "trashed" on the Mad River last sunday, I must agree with most of Tom's message. The river on that day was incredibly high and the current was fierce, but after scouting I decided it didn't look exceptionally dangerous, nor beyond my ability. I didn't know the other two paddlers. I had met them earlier that day at the New Haven ledges (which they had paddled several times before but which we all decided was a little too at that level), so I assumed they would be a competent group. The run (below the cemetary in Mooretown) turned out to be a bit much, with the first paddler rolling several times in the first 100 yard strech and the seccond paddler swimming. I survived, but definitely was helped by seeing how difficult the run was for the first two. The swimmer quickly caught an eddy and was fine, and we others were able to rescue his boat.

What annoied me were the comments made for the TV crew afterwards. Swimmer: "I was backwards, upside down, had no idea where I was, no idea what I was heading for..." Reporter: "Would you do it again?" Swimmer: "Umm...yeah, definitely." (perhaps he would have, had he not lost his paddle.)

We underestimated the river that day, suffered a lost paddle and caused Tom some grief from his Montreal friends (sorry). As the messages from the past few days point out, consequences can be much more severe. I don't like to preach, but whatever it is you do, weigh the consequences with the risks, and be prepared to accept and deal with those consequences.

And try not to be an idiot.

	Name: Joe From: Time: May 1, 2001 18:20
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It's called trolling, and it seems to work. VPC's message board is a little too white bread boring, buy my RV, dream house, or that red Dancer I have in my basement. Some quality issues have been discussed in the past few days and I feel that is a good thing. Writing on these message boards should cause the readers to think and want to express their opinions. I may have it wrong, but right at the top of this page it says rant/rave. Sorry I chose to pick on Dr. Tom but he was the one throwing around the second hand assumptions about groups of paddlers this past week. I agree with most everything he has posted. I don't paddle without a throw bag in my boat, nor do I paddle in bare feet in case I have to get out on shore and move fast. I believe we all need to make our own decisions as to what we do on the water. The number of kayaking deaths and injuries is going to go up as the number of participants increases. There is no way around that. The general public dosen't care if we kill ourselves on the rivers(landowners are a different story) they just don't want to see us naked on the side of the road before or after we paddle. Use your brains kids, walk it if you don't feel right, run it if you feel good, but be willing to accept the consequences for screwing up. Paddle hard.

Oh ya, Eric B my last name is Anonniemouse haha

	Name: Justin Beckwith From: Barneveld, NY Time: May 1, 2001 22:50
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Place your praise on the beauty of the activity you participate in. Life is an amazing thing--don't trivialize the mystery of any adventure or hide from those who embrace them at a different level than you. The bottom line is--consequences are things we can accept, ignorance is much harder. The problem with all of these message boards is the snowballing effects of "interesting information." Rivers are powerful pathways. You can learn a lot from such mediums as this page, but truly understanding and accepting the river experience is a life skill, fueled by paddling skill, not the reverse. Have fun learning, but don't question the ability or intentions of others who might set their sights a level higher than your own. If you do this, then you have to ask yourself what exactly you are trying to achieve. "Be bold enough to be small enough to let the world be awesome." Jim Snyder. Always question yourself first--and don't try and rationalize a tragedy with myopic crutches. Thank you for your concerns as to river safety and have fun doing whatever it is that you love. Justin Beckwith

	Name: CHIP MILNE From: vermont Time: May 2, 2001 01:44
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http://www.trazart.org/

	Name: Jason Duquette-Hoffman From: Burlington Time: May 2, 2001 14:09
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Kudos to Tom for reminding all of us to pay attention. It is NEVER inappropriate to raise safety as an important thing to consider in a public forum such as this board. Joe, I found your comments unhelpful, spiteful, misguided and inappropriate given the circumstances. As anyone who knows Tom, or who actually read his post carefully, is aware, he is neither condescending nor egotistical in his appraoch to paddling and paddlers. He is moreover a valuable resource, and this club is priveleged to have him as a member. I appreciate his efforts, and join with those who have posted in support of his message. I am never one to discourage open and honest dialogue, and as such I applaud your frankness, Joe. I only wish that your thoughts were more carefully considered. I am a relative novice in whitewater, yet I recognize the importance of being prepared, knowing your limits and walking when you are not sure. These are qualities I have learned from paddling with people like Tom, and I feel that they will eventually allow me to be a better paddler. While I disagree with your post, Joe, I hope that you will not be discouraged from taking part in the dialogue on this board in the future. I agree that it is always good to make people think, I think though that you could have achieved that goal in a more useful and respectful manner. Thanks also to Eric L. for sharing his experience with us. It takes guts to put one's mistakes out there like that, but I am sure we can all learn from it. SYOTR Jason

	Name: Chesapeake Light Craft From: Annapolis, MD Time: May 2, 2001 17:42
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Join Chesapeake Light Craft June 2nd for OkoumeStock North at Sebago Lake State Park, Maine. Everyone is welcome; share your home-built kayak with other paddlers and builders or demo something new. Registration is free but please let us know you are coming. Contact Lara Tukarski at (410) 267-0137 or check out www.clcboats.com for more information

	Name: Ron Morris From: East Montpelier, VT Time: May 2, 2001 21:11
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Two lightweight fiberglass whitewater kayaks for sale. (one slalom, one downriver) 25 lbs each. Good condition,want to sell together. Paddles, sprayskirts, floatation. First $650 takes it all. Call 802-229-2032 or e-mail

	Name: Rob Nixon From: Rutland Time: May 2, 2001 22:11
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Hello All,
I believe the West River is releasing again this weekend. If anyone would like to run this river with me, call or write at 802.773.3920 or rnixonii@hotmail.com There are 2 sections, the top, class II & III and the lower class I & II

	Name: Chris Weed From: Burlington, VT Time: May 3, 2001 19:57
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For those who will be spending time outdoors in the next week (and maybe beyond):

...SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BURLINGTON VT 612 PM EDT THU MAY 3 2001
...VERY HIGH FIRE DANGER CONTINUES ACROSS THE NORTH COUNTRY...

IT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY DRY ACROSS THE NORTH COUNTRY WITH RAINFALL AMOUNTS GENERALLY UNDER ONE HALF INCH SINCE EARLY APRIL. THIS LONG TERM DRYNESS COUPLED WITH THE UNSEASONABLY WARM AND DRY CONDITIONS AND VERY LOW RELATIVE HUMIDITIES HAS RESULTED IN A VERY HIGH FIRE DANGER ACROSS ALL OF VERMONT AND NORTHERN NEW YORK.

THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS BRUSH AND WILDLAND FIRES ACROSS THE REGION IN RECENT DAYS. THE NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION HAS ISSUED A BURN BAN FOR THE ENTIRE STATE OF NEW YORK. IN VERMONT...MANY TOWN FOREST WARDENS HAVE STOPPED ISSUING BURNING PERMITS. THE STATE MAY CONSIDER ISSUING A STATEWIDE BURNING BAN IF CONDITIONS DO NOT IMPROVE.

THERE IS A CHANCE OF SHOWERS FRIDAY AND FRIDAY EVENING AS A COLD FRONT DROPS SOUTH ACROSS THE REGION. HOWEVER...SIGNIFICANT WIDESPREAD RAINFALL IS NOT EXPECTED. DRY CONDITIONS WILL RETURN FOR THE WEEKEND AND CONTINUE INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK.

EXTREME CAUTION IS ADVISED FOR ANY OUTDOOR FIRES INCLUDING COOKOUTS DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS. MATCHES AND SMOKING ARE A MAJOR CAUSE OF BRUSH...GRASS AND FOREST FIRES....

	Name: tim moriarty From: windsor ct Time: May 4, 2001 08:08
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A freind of mine and I are trying to recreate the walden experience through an eight day paddle, but we haven't had much luck finding campsites along the river
If anyone had any information about campsites from the vernon damn through springfield mass, or knew if we could just get a permit to camp please let me know.

	Name: Brian Hart From: Lake Placid, NY Time: May 4, 2001 21:51
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Riverrunner/Creekboat for sale $250, perception Overflow very good shape. Stored Indoors.

This would be a good boat for anyone looking for a forgiving boat when running harder rivers.

Good karma included,
Brian

	Name: Bob Marshall From: Time: May 5, 2001 13:39
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What a great thread started by Tom. As we are all aware of the dangers in river running it does make sense to be equiped with the right gear. I am not an expert boater and probably never will be. I do carry the rope, pullys, biners and first aid kit with me. Fortunatly I have never had to use anything but the rope.
If you are a novice boater, what is difficult to you? Class II ? If you are an expert what is difficult? Regardless of you ability the dangers are the same. Make a mistake and the results could be the same. I often paddle with my son and his friends who are all about 14 years old. They all think they are invincable. Ego's? Thats not the only thing that they thing is big. Nothing looks to hard for them. As I all ways tell them, all drops can be run. The difference between a novice and an expert is how they react if something goes wrong. That reaction time is trimed down to less than a minute if you are pinned upside down under a rock. One thing they have learned is when they are on the water, listen to the people around them. When they are on shore , well thats a whole nother story. I have been paddling for 5 years. I dont have a combat roll. I concider myself a proficiant paddler. I have a good brace and river reading skills. I can run Class IV but I'm most at home in III. I have run the Lower Mad at 1200 cfs and the top of Ridley. The North branch of the Lamoille I have run at high levels. Does this put me in the same class as the Moretown boaters? Saftey is always first. My boys and myself don't care what other people think when we walk a rapid. Why take to great of a chance, the river might be better tomarrow and we want to be there.

I think most of the people you see on the river today have some common sense about their ability. There are exceptions. Rafting the otter creek at midnight on a home made raft is on the fringe. The boater in Middlebury probably was comfotable running the river. Something happend and he ran out of time.
So Tom, good advice. Joe, very well said.
There's my 2 cents!!

	Name: Rick Clark From: Bethlehem, NH Time: May 6, 2001 22:05
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Stolen Boat!
A yellow Perception Phat and a black and blue Ainsworth K100 paddle owned by The White
Mountain School was stolen on Saturday, May 5th between 4:30 and 6:30 from along the road just above Staircase rapid on the Swift River. There was also a small blue drybag in it. The Phat is stamped Not for Resale since it is a program boat and had "Phrank E." written in faded permanent marker on the stern deck. Please contact Rick Clark at 603-444-2928 or rclark@whitemountain.org
or post on the MVP website if you see this boat or have any helpful information about it.

Thanks,
Rick

	Name: Chris Weed From: Burlington, VT Time: May 6, 2001 23:16
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Rivers are now dropping steadily; the snowmelt has mostly run its course, at least in northern Vermont, and normal rainfall hasn't yet returned. If you're looking for something to do, the Winooski between Burlington and Winooski (ie, between the two mills) is now running at a comfortable level of ~3,500 cfs for those with solid class 3 skills (including a *reliable* roll). It offers some good surfing opportunities at this level -- especially a very nice wave opposite the Waterworks restaurant atrium. (You'll have an audience! Don't swim...) Try it while it's good.

The top of the rapids can be accessed from the easternmost parking lots of the Champlain and Chace Mills. The Chace Mill lot is the unpaved one behind the power substation. It is owned by Green Mountain Power, which does not object to its use for this purpose, as long as paddlers assume the risks.

[This location is mentioned on the VPC trip schedule. As always, please don't paddle these rapids alone! Also bear in mind that the Winooski One Dam is a few hundred yards downstream of the two mills.]

	Name: Jess From: Montpelier Time: May 7, 2001 12:14
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Hey Shane!
I hope you read this message board because I lost your e-mail address!
Thanks for showing me that run last week. I never knew about that river! I have never seen a 7 foot glassy wave like that before.....actually I have but not so close to home.(They have waves like that on the Fu down in Chile)
Do you think the new blade shape that you have makes your cartwheels cleaner?
Anyhow, let's rip it up soon!
Jess

	Name: shane From: vt Time: May 7, 2001 13:17
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Hey JessMan that was the most awsome wave I have ever seen!!! I would say the wave was just over 7' And it's right at our back door 25 min drive +/-. Girl you were kicking my butt. I have never seen so many kick flips!!and blunt spins. I think you are already pushing the limits on that proto type. Try the paddle with the super tight edge and the radical high back. I think it will help with the ariel cart wheel. The wave will be there all summer!!!!BOTRshane

	Name: Steve Hobbs From: Pottersville NY Time: May 7, 2001 21:23
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I just wanted to say once again that if anyone is ever interested in paddling the Schroon river in the evening or on Saturdays just send me an email. I would enjoy the company.

	Name: Jess From: Montpelier Time: May 8, 2001 08:04
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Shane wassup!
I am so glad that you read this message board. Well, the rivers are dropping but that wave is still kickin'! I went out last night and paddled in the full moon, it was so sweet. Have you ever paddled at night? Anyway, I got this one ariel cartwheel that you would not believe. I boofed the rock on river right pulled a fakie and I was airborne! You have to try that.
So you think the paddle with the supertight edge will make the difference? You were spanking me with that paddle. It must be the way that the current reacts when it hits the radical high back that gets you those moves.
Naked moonlight paddling on the wave tonight hope to see you there!
Jess

	Name: kevin tompsett From: Burlington Time: May 8, 2001 16:49
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So here's the deal. I just moved to Burlington. I boat class IV, though I don't currently own a creek boat so rivers like the New Haven are out for the moment. I would be really siked for any information on runs around here, particularly places for after work. Most of all though, I'd be siked for some people to boat with.

email me kmt@alum.dartmouth.org

	Name: Sheri Larsen From: Essex Junction Time: May 9, 2001 20:21
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Andy Meilleur and I are looking for at least one more boater to paddling New York rivers on Saturday, May 12. Based on current water levels, we're planning to do the Schroon and possibly Lower Hudson (Riparius to the Glen). The trip is intermediate white-water. Please contact me as soon as possible. Phone contact is best at 878-6828.

	Name: shane From: vt Time: May 9, 2001 22:30
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JessNow I know where all that howling was coming from.The water is droping but, there is still fun to be had! Time to get out that squirt boat and Find the third dimention. As they say plastic and volume are a crutch. I know of some kicking down time spots 10- 20 seconds!!! Girl I would like to see that new move of yours. If it's as good as you say it could end you up with a team slot!! Are you racing this weekend? or are you stuck in park and play barbie mode? The wave was still kicking but getting to it is a drag!! tough spot. Where you with your sority sises on that moon cruz? They are a wild bunch!! seeya BOTR shane

	Name: Jess From: Vt Time: May 10, 2001 10:50
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Shane and other naked full moon VPC paddlers, Sweet mystery moves at the wave last night. It is hard getting to that wave. Jake wanted to come but he had no equipment for the repell(sp). Does anyone have an extra harness that he could borrow?
Shane, I think I will be racing this weekend, you? Let's park and play barbie and ken on friday though!
I think that Tao might be coming for a visit this weekend, should we take him to the wave?
Gotta fly brother, the water is a callin'!
Peace out,
jlove

	Name: Matt From: Fletcher Time: May 10, 2001 12:42
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Hello folks,

We are headed up to the Chambly Rodeo this weekend (to watch, not enter). We might paddle Friday afternoon in Chambly. We will look for Vt-ers!

Here's my question;

We would like to travel up to the Jacques Cartier but do not have information on flow etc. Does anyone have or know where we can get information? I am interested in the Tewksbury section it seems...

Thank you,
Matt

	Name: Bob.Z From: Baja New England Time: May 10, 2001 15:35
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WTB Mohawk Probe 14 or Daggere Caption
Canoe in good shape.

Please send a description of boat/outfitting/condition/price/location

Thanks & SYOTR

	Name: Chris Weed From: Burlington, VT Time: May 10, 2001 17:32
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Update on the Winooski @ Chace Mill: The river is now down to 1,970 cfs (as of 1:45 PM today) and is being strongly affected by manipulations of the flow by upstream dams. By this weekend it should be at something close to typical mid-summer levels -- a sobering thought considering that we're still in the first half of May. The nice wave I mentioned previously disappeared on Tuesday afternoon. We won't see it again until we get a good soaking rain over a wide area of northern Vermont. Nonetheless there is still stuff to do at the Mill -- some other waves, a nice splat rock, a playable hole or two. (The horseshoe hole is still too big to really play in.) The Chace Mill side of the falls still has enough water to be runnable. The water temperature is close to 60 degrees F -- maybe warmer.

[There are paddlers out there now; come on down!]

	Name: shane From: vt Time: May 11, 2001 22:42
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Jess Met captin Nemo last night after you left. Jet fairied into the wave stuck the bow in the fold crossed drawed dipped the hip and disappeared for a long while no carping, but close. Also stuck 3 chuvits in a row after a vexed out shutter stand. jess my e-mail is on the frits didn't relize it.shane

	Name: Stuart Savel From: Chester Time: May 12, 2001 08:16
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WTB
Kayak suitable Lake & Big River (Conn etc.)Hatches, Skeg or rudder, would be nice price is more important then age or cosmetetics.

802-875-3158

	Name: Tony From: Williston Time: May 12, 2001 22:08
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Shutter bugs!
If anyone takes paddle pictures at the Fiddlehead Slalom on Mother's Day that belong on the WWW, let me know. Digitals are easiest, but I can scan your prints as well. Hope ya'll have a great time there!!
Tony (802-879-1655)

	Name: Gary From: North Conway, NH Time: May 13, 2001 19:37
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FOR SALE: 2000 NECKY GLISS (7'11" & 57 gals), yellow fading to orangish-red bow. Fully outfitted and in great condition. Good boat to learn all the new moves in but still be safe and predictable in "big water". Super surfer and spinner...Best for paddlers between 140 and 200 lbs. Asking $575 in North Conway, NH...please contact me at coach@ncia.net THANKS

	Name: Matt From: Fletcher, VT Time: May 14, 2001 10:01
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Went up to Cahmbly on Friday, very nice high volume waves and only about 1.25 hours from my house!

Headed up to the Jacques Cartier. It's at a great level! We ran from Pont-Rouge to Donnaconna, really nice section. Whirlpools the size of my house were an interesting feature that I have never experienced. The surf waves were endless and only 4 hours from Fletcher! Yee-haa! If you need info feel free to email me.

Matt

	Name: james From: morrisville Time: May 14, 2001 15:36
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boats for salecentrifuge great shape $450cfs new this spring $600bomber gear the bomb dry top $175email james@mt-mansfield or 888-6649

	Name: Rob Nixon From: Rutland Time: May 14, 2001 17:07
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Hello All,
I am planning a trip to Costa Rica in July and I have never been there. I would love to plan some boating, but there is so much and I want to stay out of the tourist areas. If anyone has been and would like to give some advise and share some stories, I would love it. my address is rnixonii@hotmail.com or just post a message so everyone can learn. Thanks Rob

	Name: john wolfe From: vt Time: May 14, 2001 21:23
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Big thanks, To Ray Ingram For setting up another great course at the Fiddlehead this past weekend. It was a lot of fun. Thanks again Ray!!john wolfe

	Name: Jess From: VT Time: May 15, 2001 07:56
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Hey SHane...Sorry it has been a while. I have been away since I last wrote you. Went down to hit some rivers in the south. Please note my new e-mail address, I guess there was some mix up with my old one.
Anyhow, I finally got 20 seconds down time! See you at the wave!
J

	Name: Christine From: North Carolina Time: May 15, 2001 15:15
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Kayak Magazine is seeking freelance writers and photographers. Please see our website for details or email me.

	Name: Craig Gibbs From: Waterbury ctr. Vt Time: May 15, 2001 17:37
Referred by: Bow and Stern Comments:

Hello fello boaters i was just woundering if any one was plaining on running the mad this thursday if you are and would like some company e-mail me back please

thanks Craig

	Name: Kerry Sedutto From: Stowe Time: May 15, 2001 22:25
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I'm selling a dagger Redline for $500. If anyone is interested, please email me or call me at 253-2204 from 3-9pm on weekdays!

	Name: Ledyard Canoe Club From: Hanover NH Time: May 17, 2001 06:04
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**LEDYARD CANOE CLUB OPENING DAY**

The water has warmed up, so we are now open for the season as of May 11!

Come down and rent a kayak or canoe

---------And Don't Miss:-----------
FRIDAY, MAY 18:
BAND, BARBEQUE, AND BOATS-
party at Ledyard!
music and bbq 5pm - 7pm
free rentals 12-6

Featuring:
*Great Sounds from DAYBREAK
*Tons of FOOD FROM the grill
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...........ABSOLUTELY FREE!.............

brought to you in part by Nobacco, the Programming Board, '04 Class
Council, '02 Class Council

Come Check it Out!


Normal spring business hours are
12noon -6pm on weekdays
10am - 6pm on weekends

For questions contact Ledyard.Canoe.Club@Dartmouth.EDU or call
(603) 646-6709

	Name: Chris Weed From: Burlington, VT Time: May 17, 2001 10:18
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For non-VPC members who monitor this message board -- a report from Tony Shaw:

******************************************
Bush Hacks USGS Streamgage Funding by 40%
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April 9, 2001 (Washington, DC): President Bush is proposing a 40% cut in the USGS streamgaging budget for fiscal year 2002. This is twice as bad as even the most pessimistic predictions.

My letter of opposition (see below) can serve as a sample, if you agree with the sentiments. Send one like it (or simply copy and paste mine) to your congressional delegation! The www address is http://www.americanwhitewater.org/archive/article/172/

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May 13, 2001

Dear [recipient name was inserted here],

Alarming news has come my way, that resident Bush has recommended a staggering cutback in funding for the USGS real-time stream gage program. This is bad news, not only for recreational users of Vermont streams and rivers like myself, but also for those whose homes and businesses may be threatened by rapidly rising river levels, and for industries like hydro power producers who may use USGS data to predict and maximize their power generating capabilities throughout the year.

The USGS has done an absolutely PHENOMENAL job with their state of the art stream level monitoring system. It embodies the best of what the WWW has to offer, permitting public safety officials, business people, and the general public to observe stream level fluctuations in real time without ever leaving their desk or home. Please do not let the Bush administration diminish this tremendous and necessary USGS activity.

Sincerely,
Anthony Shaw
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	Name: Mark Willett From: Fairfax Time: May 17, 2001 10:42
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Looking to buy a canoe, Solo-plus or tandem. Mostly for family recreational camping, but able to do some whitewater.
Give me an E-mail or a call, 849-9710. Thanks. Mark

	Name: Yuki From: Chazy, NY Time: May 17, 2001 15:35
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For sale $600 Riot’s Trickstar 2001 edition ! Color “Wildberry”. It’s good for to make advanced move and river running. Please check Riot’s web site for this specs. If anyone is interested in this information, please email me.

	Name: Stuart Savel From: Chester Time: May 18, 2001 09:05
Referred by: Bow and Stern Comments:

I am looking for boat storage on lake champlaign for the summer. I place for easy an easy put in and paddle.

	Name: john wolfe From: earth Time: May 20, 2001 22:38
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WTB looking for a whiplash any shape would like it to float. k1 or c1 doesn't matter. please e-mail. j

	Name: Chris Weed From: Burlington, VT Time: May 21, 2001 17:19
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Does anyone have an old w/w kayak paddle they can lend me for a little while while I'm waiting for an order to come in? I busted my current paddle last Thursday on the Winooski so I am temporarily a flat water (touring boat) paddler only. [I had been using a Mitchell Rover, 60 degree right feather, 198 cm.]

I promise not to break it!

	Name: Michael E. Boivin From: Portland, Maine Time: May 21, 2001 17:52
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Hi. Is it true that your club sponsors or does an annual circumvention of Manhattan, New York? A friend and I are interested in doing so and would like to converse with a person of experience. We are hoping to do this in late June.

	Name: Marie Coté From: Montreal Time: May 22, 2001 12:46
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Hi, I'm looking for a storage place for my kanue (kayak) 17'. If you have any idea, let me know!
thanks

	Name: Rob Nixon From: Rutland Time: May 22, 2001 15:07
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I'm heading down to CT this weekend, does anyone know how T-ville is running? Please let me know if you have any info
rnixonii@hotmail.com

	Name: BILL DEAKINS From: DOVER,VT Time: May 23, 2001 14:46
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LOOKING FOR SOME INTRUCTION OVER MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND FOR ADV BEG. (STROKES AND ROLLING)

	Name: Steve Hobbs From: NY Time: May 23, 2001 15:27
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I would like to paddle the Hudson Gorge this saturday. Anyone interested? Please let me know via email.
steve@wolbi.net

	Name: Merrill Hurst From: Greensboro, VT Time: May 23, 2001 17:18
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Can anyone reccommend an easy overnight kayak trip for me and my 13 year old daughter? We are novices, and have two Sporty plastic kayaks, We're not looking for high adventure here. We'd like to spend the night in a bed and breakfast. Soft, eh? Its a birthday treat. Maybe there is another website we should be looking at? Thanks.

	Name: steve Hobbs From: NY Time: May 23, 2001 18:51
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Well, as quickly as plans are made they fall apart. It turns out that I am not going to be able to paddle this weekend after all. However, if anyone is ever interested in paddling the gorge on Saturdays let me know. thanks.

	Name: Joe Bromka From: Time: May 24, 2001 08:51
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	Name: Joe Bromka From: Time: May 24, 2001 08:54
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Cancelled: Dead/Kennebec trip this coming Memorial Weekend. Sorry about that. I believe the Merrimack Vally Paddlers will be camping at Webb's campground located at the Forks, ME. Happy Paddling. Joe

	Name: Julie Smith From: MVP Time: May 24, 2001 11:39
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In response to Joe Bromka's message, yes, we are in The Forks this weekend. For the Dead 1800 Saturday, meet at Webb's at 8:00-8:30 for headcount and shuttle setup. Although they are not official club trips, I also intend to run the Dead again at 5500 Sunday and the Kennebec Monday. I will not be checking email between tonight and this weekend, but anyone can seek me out once there. I have a purple Pyranha and yellow/orange Schlegel.

	Name: Brian Jones From: Burlington Time: May 24, 2001 17:15
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Anyone else planning on heading to maine this weekend? I'm hoping to go but wouldn't mind splitting the drive with people...give me a call at 864-9586. Brian

	Name: yuki yabuuchi From: chazy NY Time: May 24, 2001 19:30
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For sale Riot's Tricksater $400 ! color: wildberry, good condition. I would like to sell out this boat ASAP, 'cause I have to leave here 2 weeks later on my business. Please contact me, if anyone is interested in this information, 518-846-8489 or by email.

	Name: Megan From: Time: May 28, 2001 18:46
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For sale: Dagger RPM $400. Anyone have a Sleek for sale?

	Name: James Tilley From: Winooski, VT Time: May 28, 2001 22:45
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Looking to sell a year-old pyranha inazone 220. Good play/river running boat. Looking for $450. Contact me, james, at (802) 655-0383 or jtilley@zoo.uvm.edu. The boat is in Winooski, VT. Thanks.

	Name: john wolfe From: vt Time: May 29, 2001 21:55
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I am looking to sell a Gyramax C-1 fully outfitted with complete set of air bags, The boat is classic Perception red. Great intro to C-1! Asking $215. obo. e-mail if intrested.

	Name: John Bourland From: South Hero, VT Time: May 30, 2001 16:32
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Come to the Islands Festival on June 23, 2001 at Knight Point State Park in No. Hero, VT. Paddle races, demos, classes, tours, live music, barbeque and more!
Contact Champlain Islands Chamber of Commerce 1-802-372-8400 or www.champlainislands.com for more info

	Name: Matt From: Hinesburg Time: May 30, 2001 22:25
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Wavesport X for sale...$550. Matt 482-6752